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my mom's
我的妈妈
gone she's nowhere to be
走了，她无处可
found where would she
寻，她会去哪里，
be she's gone and we need to find
她走了，我们需要找到
her my name is Nikki Bates and my mom is
她，我的名字是 Nikki Bates，我的妈妈是
Tammy
Tammy
Myers how old were you when your mother
Myers，你妈妈失踪时你多大，
disappeared I was only 7 years
我才 7
old it was just like a heavy weight just
岁 就像沉重的负担，
a feeling like you couldn't breathe she
就像你无法呼吸的感觉，她
would have called she would have found a
会打电话，她会想
way to call you got three little kids
办法给你打电话，你有三个孩子，
and they're missing their mom and what
他们想念他们的妈妈，
do you say I don't remember exactly how
你会说什么，我不记得具体是怎么回事了
I did it but I know it was one of the
我做到了，但我知道这是
toughest things I ever
我做过的最艰难的事情之一。
did I'm Ryan Myers and Tammy Myers was
我是 Ryan Myers，Tammy Myers 是
my wife even after we separated we
我的妻子，即使我们分开后，我们
remained
仍然很
close my mom was the love of his life
亲密。我妈妈是他一生的挚爱。Tammy 充满
Tammy was loving and caring fun
爱心，关心别人，有趣，随和，
easygoing electric an overall great
充满活力。 总体来说，
person to be
around your mother meets a man who would
你妈妈遇到的这个人
soon play a major role in all of your
很快就会在你们所有人的生活中扮演重要角色，
lives who was that man William
那个人是谁，威廉·
Greer my mom and my dad split up and she
格里尔，我妈妈和我爸爸分手了，她
gets with him this man's Rich he has
和他在一起，这个男人很有钱，他
money we we got to do all these fun
有钱，我们 做了所有这些有趣的
things so immediately we just like were
事情，所以我们立刻就被
drawn to him until you know we realized
他吸引了，直到你知道 我们意识到他们
that our mom wasn't happy when they were
在一起的时候，妈妈并不开心，
together he was very abusive as a little
他对我们妈妈的虐待非常厉害，
girl you remember seeing your mother in
你还记得看到你妈妈
pain yes she was bleeding she was
痛苦的样子吗？是的，她在流血，她身上到处都是
bruised she could barely walk did she
瘀伤，她几乎不能走路，她
ever report any of this to police not
有没有向警方报告过这些事情？
that I know
我知道
of what happened on December 19th 2006
2006 年 12 月 19 日
in gre's home there was an argument that
在 gre 家里发生的事情，随后发生了一场争吵，
had ensued William Greer did not like
William Greer 不喜欢
the direction the conversation was going
谈话的方向，
retrieved a shotgun and shot
拿起一把猎枪射杀了
Tammy he's definitely among the worst
Tammy，他绝对是最坏的人之一，
and the worst he's an evil murderer my
最坏的他是一个邪恶的杀手，我的
name is Cameron Welch I'm Josh Wright
名字 是 Cameron Welch 我是 Josh Wright
Leslie Raymond I was one of the US
Leslie Raymond 我是美国
Marshals one of the US Marshals one of
法警之一 美国法警之一
the US Marshals hunting William Greer
美国法警之一 正在追捕 William Greer
they find blood all over the house they
他们发现房子里到处都是血迹 他们
find the bullet holes is William Greer
发现有弹孔 William Greer
still at the house no he has fled
还在家里吗 他已经逃到
nowhere to be found he's just SC to
哪里都找不到他只是
Georgia New Orleans Kentucky America's
南卡罗来纳州乔治亚州新奥尔良肯塔基州美国
Most Wanted by this time he's making the
头号通缉犯此时他正在制作
TV scene we introduce you a William
电视场景我们向你介绍
Greer when he saw himself on TV he just
威廉格里尔当他看到自己 在电视上，他只是
got up and left to move on to the next
站起来离开，前往下一个
place our beloved Tammy americ Most
地方，我们敬爱的 Tammy americ Most
Wanted they were the first ones to
Wanted 他们是第一批
interview US did it give you some hope
采访我们的人，这给了你一些希望
it did they had a few leads but it died
吗？他们有一些线索，但一切都
down and we didn't have anything else
消失了，我们没有 多年来没有其他事情了，
for years
where is she where's William
她在哪里，威廉
at you kind of went on a mission didn't
在哪里，你是不是去执行了一项任务，
you I did what was that mission to not
我做了什么任务，
only find William but to just keep my
不仅要找到威廉，还要让我
mom's name and her case
妈妈的名字和她的案子
alive she'd be a great Deputy US Marshal
继续下去，她会是一个 伟大的美国副法警，
you took the words out of my mouth she's
你说出了我的心里话，她
tenacious yeah we love
很顽强，是的，我们喜欢这个
that the family wants somebody who's
家庭想要一个
going to push hard to do what needs to
能够努力去做需要
be done we will never stop Justice is
做的事情的人，我们永远不会停止，正义即将
coming
到来
you always hear that time heals it'll
你总是听说时间可以治愈一切，一切都会
get better it'll get easier that is not
好起来，一切都会变得容易，但
true I think it's harder as an an adult
事实并非如此，我认为
without a mom than it was as a kid you
没有妈妈的成年人比小时候更难，
have graduations that she misses she
她会错过毕业典礼，她
missed my
会错过我的
wedding she has eight grandchildren that
婚礼，她有八个
she will never meet Nikki Meers Bates
她永远不会见到孙子 Nikki Meers Bates 的
lost her mother nearly two decades ago
母亲去世近两年 几十年前，
when she was just 7 years old but she
她才 7 岁，但她
says no amount of time will heal this
说，无论时间多久都无法治愈这个
wound this is my family now a mother of
伤口，这是我的家庭，现在她
three herself is still searching for her
自己也是三个孩子的母亲，她仍然在寻找她的
mother and fighting to bring the man who
母亲，并努力将
killed her to Justice pretty much when I
杀害她的人绳之以法。 我
became a teenager got my cell phone you
十几岁的时候就有了自己的手机，你
know I read every article every news
知道我读了每一篇文章，每一个新闻
video I I seen it I read it Ryan even
视频，我看过它，我读过它，瑞安，即使
when you talk about her today uh you get
你今天谈论她，你也会
emotional about it why is that I still
情绪激动，为什么我仍然
love you still love
爱你，仍然爱
her Ryan Meyers says he and Tammy were
她瑞安·迈耶斯说 他和 Tammy
just teenagers when they first fell in
十几岁的时候就
love 20 when he asked her to marry him
相爱了，20 岁的时候他向她求婚了，
the first year we were together we had a
我们在一起的第一年我们就有了一个
kid and then following year had another
孩子，第二年又生了一个
kid a few years later we had Nikki Nikki
孩子，几年后我们又有了 Nikki，Nikki
says there wasn't much money to go
说没有 虽然有很多钱可以
around but there was always more than
花，但总是有
enough love especially between mother
足够多的爱，特别是母女之间的爱，
and daughter she was very loving she was
她非常有爱心，她
made to be a girl mom even though she
天生就是一个女孩妈妈，尽管她
had two two boys she was very girly full
有两个儿子，但她很有女人味，充满
alive fun energetic Ryan worked long
活力，有趣，精力充沛，瑞安工作
hour hours as a window installer so
时间很长 作为一名窗户安装工，这样
Tammy could be a full-time
Tammy 就可以成为一名全职
mom then fate dealt the Meers family a
妈妈，但命运却给 Meers 一家带来了
devastating blow my dad was working on
毁灭性的打击 我爸爸当时在
top of a three-story building he got
一栋三层楼的楼顶上工作，
electrocuted and fell off and hit the
触电后摔了下来，摔在了
concrete I fell three floors broke my
水泥地上，我从三层楼上摔了下来，摔断了
back and
背和
legs and uh unfortunately the company I
腿，不幸的是，我
work for didn't have insurance how did
工作的公司没有保险，
you pay for all this well I mean
你是怎么支付所有费用的 我的意思是，
essentially Tammy had to work and and
塔米必须工作，
try to pay some of the bills while I was
在我没钱的时候，她必须设法支付一些账单，
down and she had no experience so she
而她没有经验，所以她
did what she thought was easiest and
做了她认为最容易的事，
became a stripper am I to say that you
成为了一名脱衣舞娘，我确定你
sure you
say she became a female dancer how did
说她成为了 一个女舞者，
your dad take all of this I don't think
你爸爸是怎么接受这一切的？我想
he loved it I think he wanted her to
他并不喜欢这样，我想他希望她能
find another job but she was like it's
找到另一份工作，但她却说
fine nothing's happening here I'm just
没事，这里什么都没有发生，我只是
getting the money and so it was until
得到了钱，直到
Tammy met a big spender named William
Tammy 遇到了一个叫威廉·格里尔的大手大脚的人，
Greer he was as far as I know a regular
据我所知，他是
at the club he would threw a lot of
俱乐部的常客，他会
money around where did he get his money
乱花钱，他的钱是从哪里来的，
he owned a vending machine company so
他拥有一家自动售货机公司，所以
her and my dad split up and she gets
她和我爸爸分手了，她
with
和
him sometime in 2006 Tammy moved about
2006 年，Tammy 搬到了
an hour away to Spring Texas in this
离这里大约一小时车程的德克萨斯州斯普林，
house with ker and two sons from his
和 ker 以及两个儿子一起住在这所房子里 他的
first marriage Nikki and her brothers
第一次婚姻 Nikki 和她的兄弟们
would spend the weekends there was he
会在那里度过周末
kind to you as far as I remember yes uh
我记得他对你很好吗 是的 呃
always giving us money trying to take us
总是给我们钱 试图带我们
on trips did your mom stop working as a
去旅行 你妈妈停止做
stripper yes did you sense that that
脱衣舞娘了吗 是的 你是否感觉到
William gr was good for your mother when
William gr 我第一次见到他时对你妈妈很好，
I first met him yes but things would
是的，但
turn ugly over time says Nikki not long
随着时间的推移，事情会变得糟糕，尼基说，不久
before her mother went missing Nikki
之后，她的母亲就失踪了，尼基
says there were clear signs of physical
说有明显的身体虐待的迹象，
abuse which Tammy documented in these
塔米在这些照片中记录了下来，
photos she stole his truck and came all
她偷了他的卡车，然后来了
the way to Cleveland from Spring and she
从斯普林到克利夫兰的路上，她
could barely get out of the car and she
几乎没法下车，她
was bleeding she was bruised Nikki says
浑身是血，身上都是瘀伤。尼基说，
her mom tried to cover it up she told us
她妈妈试图掩盖这件事，她告诉我们
that it was a dirk bike accident but she
那是一场德克自行车事故，但她
had told my stepmother that he had hit
告诉我的继母，他撞到了
her with numchucks what's numcha you see
她拿着双截棍，你看空手道，
Karate the um the wooden things you
你挥舞的木头东西，
swing
around he hit her with that
他用那个打了她，是
yes Nikki says Greer came looking for
的，尼基说，格里尔来找
his truck and her mother my dad was like
他的卡车和她的母亲，我爸爸说
you need to get off my property and he
你需要离开我的财产，他
was arguing saying well she stole my
争辩说，好吧 她偷了我的
truck and my dad's like I don't care you
卡车 我爸爸就像我不在乎你
need to get off my property you know my
需要离开我的财产你知道我
dad always says I wish I would have just
爸爸总是说我希望我当时就
shot him cuz your mom would still be
开枪打死了他因为你的妈妈仍然会
here Nikki says she has since learned
在这里[音乐]尼基说她后来才知道
that her mother had been warned about
她的母亲已经
Greer's propensity for violence by
someone who knew him well his ex-wife
一个很了解 Greer 的人警告他 Greer 有暴力倾向，他的前妻
she would tell my mom that you know you
会告诉我妈妈，你知道你
need to leave him he's dangerous sadly
需要离开他，他很危险，不幸的
it seems like Tammy may have been
是，Tammy 似乎一直在
thinking about doing just that but ran
考虑这么做，但
out of time and is it true that the two
时间不够了，
of you were were thinking about getting
back together talking about getting back
together before she disappeared yes
在她失踪之前，你们两个真的在考虑复合吗？是的，
sir then as Christmas 2006 approached
先生。然后，在 2006 年圣诞节临近时，
Tammy mysteriously vanished I had a Miss
Tammy 神秘失踪了。我接到了她的一个小姐的
call from her and I tried to call her
电话，我试着给她
bik and I didn't get a
打电话，但我没有 '没有得到
response I remember crying a lot um just
回复我记得我哭了很多，嗯，
being devastated not only for me but
不仅为我自己感到伤心，而且
seeing my dad the way that way was just
看到我爸爸那样，也让我
devastating and that's when this case
伤心欲绝，就在那时，这个案子
took the first of many bizarre turns
发生了许多离奇的转折，就
just 8 days before Tammy was reported
在塔米失踪格里尔的 8 天前
missing Greer was arrested for public
因公共场合被逮捕
intoxication can you tell me your full
醉酒你能告诉我你的全
name William Joseph Greer this is Greer
名威廉·约瑟夫·格里尔这是
on dash cam video come here with me
行车记录仪上的格里尔来跟我一起
confessing to two sheriff's deputies
向两名警长坦白
that he had shot Tammy gun just went off
他开枪打死了塔米的枪刚刚走火了
oh my God it's the worst thing I ever
哦天哪这是我做过的最糟糕的事情
did
was were you aware that William Greer
你知道吗 威廉·格里尔
had been arrested by sheriff's
deputies at that time no sir and in the
当时已被警长逮捕，不，先生，
next strange twist Greer was released I
接下来奇怪的转折是格里尔被释放了，我
was still lost to why when somebody sit
仍然不明白为什么当有人坐在
there in admitted to something why you
那里承认某事时，你
would just turn them loose so easily
会如此轻易地放他们走
back in 2006 Paul Lasco was a deputy for
回来 2006 年，保罗·拉斯科是
the Liberty County Sheriff's Office in
自由县警长办公室的副警长。12
the early morning hours of December 22nd
月 22 日凌晨，
Lasco and his partner got a call about
拉斯科和他的搭档接到电话，称
suspicious activity on this road in
在
Cleveland Texas there was a vehicle a
德克萨斯州克利夫兰的这条路上有可疑活动，沟里有一辆车，一辆
truck in the ditch here and there was
卡车，还有
nobody around it the truck was running
周围没有人，卡车在行驶，
the lights were on door was open the
车灯亮着，车门开着，
whole thing was captured on this dash
整个过程都被行车
cam video Lasco says that at the time
记录仪拍了下来。拉斯科说，当时
there was a fenced in field bordered by
有一块用栅栏围起来的田地，周围是
a large wooded area my partner went down
一大片树林，我的搭档沿着
the driveway here next to the driveway
车道旁边的车道
was like a brush pile that was pulled up
就像一堆被拔起的灌木丛，
that's where laco's partner found the
那是拉科的合伙人发现
missing driver a highly intoxicated
失踪司机的地方，他喝醉了，
William Greer William Joseph Greer it
威廉·格里尔威廉·约瑟夫·格里尔，
appeared that he had been using some
他似乎一直在吸食
sort of drugs that's what he acts like
某种毒品，这就是他的行为，
he acts like he's on me he was also half
他的行为 他在我身上，
naked he had a a button-up shirt on and
他半裸着，穿着一件扣子衬衫，
no pants no under he was naked from the
没有裤子，他从腰部以下赤裸，
waist down now you've seen a lot of
现在你已经看到了很多
things how strange was this this was
东西，这有多奇怪，这
pretty strange where do you think your
很奇怪，你认为你的
shoes are your your boots at all them
鞋子是你的靴子，所有的
things got too M and bog down cuz it's a
东西都变得太 M 和陷入泥潭，因为这是一片
swamp
沼泽，
out Greer's clothing was never recovered
格里尔的衣服再也没有找到，
but much more alarming than his physical
但比他的身体状况更令人担忧的
state was what Greer freely said to two
是格里尔自由地对两名
detectives it was an accident not I love
侦探说，这是一场意外，不是我喜欢的
with all my
我的
heart he said that he accidentally shot
心，他说他不小心射中了
Tammy uh in the chest and that he he
塔米的胸部，然后他亲眼
watched her die gun just went off I
看着她死去，枪一响我简直
could believe what happened oh my God
不敢相信发生了什么，天哪，
the worst thing I ever did
我做过的最坏的事
was Creer told them the shooting had
就是克里尔告诉他们枪击事件
taken place at his home in Spring about
发生在他家 春季
40 Mi Southwest of Cleveland a different
西南约 40 英里处 克利夫兰是另一个
County with a different
县，当时有不同的
Sheriff back then Sid Miller was a
警长。Sid Miller 是
homicide detective in the Harris County
哈里斯县警长办公室的凶杀案侦探，
Sheriff's Office he would later learn
他后来得知，
that Harris County had been contacted by
哈里斯县已经与
a Liberty County dispatcher and asked to
自由县的调度员取得联系，并要求
send two deputies to GRE home for a
派两名警员到 GRE 家进行
welfare check they peer through the
福利检查 他们透过
window looked inside the house and they
窗户往屋里看了看，
didn't see anything that was out of the
没有发现任何
ordinary in their opinion our dispatch
异常，在他们看来，我们的调度
notified us that haris County went out
通知我们，哈里斯县的人已经
there and everything looked fine lasasco
出去了，一切都很好，拉萨斯科
says they attempted to question Greer
说，他们试图对格里尔进行
some more but by then he had sobered up
更多的询问，但是 然后他清醒过来，
and stopped talking you confessed to
不再说话，你承认
killing her oh no I don't remember that
杀了她，哦不，我不记得那
part without probable cause that a
部分了，没有正当理由就
murder had occurred all GRE could be
发生了谋杀，GRE 只能被
charged with was public intoxication so
指控公共醉酒，所以
Lasco and his partner took him to the
Lasco 和他的搭档把他带到了
Liberty County Jail where he was booked
自由县 他被关进监狱，
released on bond the next day and
第二天就被保释了，然后就
disappeared it's frustrating because we
失踪了，这让人很沮丧，因为我们曾经
had him and now he's he's
关过他，现在他却
gone Nikki says no one realized just how
不见了。尼基说，
gone Greer was until days later when
直到几天后，
Greer's sons from his first marriage
格里尔和第一任妻子的儿子们
returned from Christmas Vacation with
和他们的母亲一起从圣诞假期回来
their mother
and when their mom goes to drop them off
，当他们的妈妈去送他们回家时，
they start freaking out we don't want to
他们开始发疯，我们不想
go home the boys had been with their
回家，自从 Tammy Meers 失踪那天起，孩子们就一直和他们的
mother since the day Tammy Meers
母亲在一起，
disappeared now 11 days later they were
现在 11 天后，他们
telling their mother that the morning
告诉了他们的母亲
she picked them up they heard their
她接孩子的那天早上，他们听到
father shoot Tammy Meyers their mother
父亲向 Tammy Meyers 开枪，他们的母亲
took the boys straight down to the
直接带着孩子们去了
Sheriff's office for an interview that's
警长办公室接受采访，就在
when detective Miller got involved they
那时，米勒侦探介入了进来，他们
indicated that sometime in the morning
表示，枪击案发生在
of December the 19th between 2:00 a.m.
12 月 19 日凌晨 2 点左右。
and 5:00 a.m. they heard Greer and Tammy
凌晨 5 点，他们听到 Greer 和 Tammy
arguing one of them described hearing
争吵，其中一人说听到
what sounded like Tammy running down the
Tammy 在走廊上奔跑
hallway and being thrown against the
，然后被撞到
wall he also described hearing a gunshot
墙上，他还说听到了一声枪响，还
and he heard William Greer make the
听到 William Greer
comment about are you dead are you still
问你死了吗
alive at this point they obtained a
此时他们还活着，他们获得了
search warrant and they go into his
搜查令，进入了他的
house when detective Miller arrived at
房子，当侦探米勒到达
the house he discovered Greer's
房子时，他发现格里尔的
brother-in-law he was actually there
姐夫正在
cleaning out the house he told the
打扫房子，他告诉
detectives he didn't know the house was
侦探他不认识这所房子 曾是
a crime scene and what was he cleaning
犯罪现场，他在清理什么，
up he was taking property out of the
他把财物从房子里搬出去，
house uh we learned that he had taken
呃，我们了解到，他
some guns out of there at the direction
在格里尔先生的指示下，从那里拿走了一些枪，
of Mr
Greer still says Miller the house was
米勒仍然说，那所房子
clearly a crime scene there was so many
显然是一个犯罪现场，那里有很多
bullet holes in this house throughout
子弹 这房子里到处都是洞，
this house I noticed that there was like
我注意到
blood smear uh on some of the walls I
有些墙上有血迹，我
walked into the bedroom you know you had
走进卧室，你知道你的
a mattress soaked Blood on the side of
床垫浸湿了，
the mattress there were bullet Hol in
床垫侧面有血迹，卧室里有子弹，
the bedroom and so what William Greer
那又怎么样 威廉·格里尔
had actually told those Liberty County
实际上告诉了那些自由县的
deputies turned out to be true it turn
警员，结果证明是真的，
yes you again one more thing you should
是的，你又一次应该
know about that night deputies found
知道的一件事是，那天晚上，警员
Tammy's cell phone on the front seat of
在格里尔的卡车前座上发现了塔米的手机，
Greer's truck they used it to call
他们用它打电话给
Tammy's mother who Nikki says told
塔米的母亲，尼基说 告诉
deputies that Greer had been physically
警员，格里尔一直在
abusing her daughter the older I get the
虐待她的女儿，我越长大，
more angry I get they they really failed
就越生气，他们真的辜负了她，
not only her but just everyone in this
不仅是她，而是所有人，在这种
situation Nikki says it still infuriates
情况下，尼基说，
her that on the night career confessed a
当晚承认有
search warrant would have made all the
搜查令，她仍然很愤怒 所有的
difference why didn't they seek a search
差异为什么他们不寻求
warrant to get into the house that
那天晚上，
evening I think at that particular time
我认为
based on what Greer had told Liberty
根据格里尔告诉自由
County because of his intoxicated State
县的情况，由于他醉酒，
they they couldn't verify substantiate
他们无法核实
whether that was credible information
那是否是可靠的信息，
Miller says that night there just wasn't
米勒说那天晚上没有搜查令进入房子。
enough probable cause for a search
有足够的可能原因获得搜查
warrant and even after searching Greer's
令，即使在搜查了 Greer 的
home they still couldn't find Tammy we
家之后，他们仍然找不到 Tammy，我们
actually did a search of the house and
实际上搜查了房子，
we had cab dogs go out and and do a
我们让出租车狗出去
search of the property and we didn't
搜查了房子，但我们
find
anything detective Miller says they also
什么也没找到 米勒侦探说，他们还
searched the woods where Greer had been
搜查了格里尔被捕的树林，
arrested still even without Tammy's body
但即使没有塔米的尸体，
the Harris County District Attorney's
哈里斯县地方检察官
Office felt they had enough to charge
办公室仍然认为他们有足够的证据指控
Greer with first-degree murder and on
格里尔犯有一级谋杀罪，并于
March 16th 2007 nearly 3 months after
2007 年 3 月 16 日，即格里尔醉酒认罪近 3 个月后，
Greer's drunken confession a grand jury
一桩盛大的谋杀案 陪审团
voted to indict him there was just one
投票决定起诉他，但有一个
problem says former deputy US Marshall
问题，前美国副法警雷曼说，
lesie Rayman he was in the Wind by the
time they figured out a murder had
当他们发现发生了一起谋杀案时，他已经
occurred with Greer was
gone our beloved Tammy a daughter taken
失踪了，我们心爱的塔米的女儿被夺走了
life shaken Nikki Bates was just 9 years
生命，震惊不已 尼基·贝茨只有 9
old when she and her brothers shared
岁，当时她和她的兄弟们
memories of their mother with the
television show America's Most Wanted
电视节目《美国头号通缉犯》中分享了他们母亲的回忆，这
reminds me of us spending time together
让我想起了我们一起度过的时光。
Nikki hoped that viewers might recognize
尼基希望观众能认出
the man who had allegedly killed her
那个据称杀死了她
mother and then disappeared William
母亲然后失踪的男人威廉·
Greer did it give you some hope it did
格里尔 这给了你一些希望吗？有的，
once we got him on America's Most Wanted
一旦我们把他列入美国头号通缉犯名单，
we started getting tips detective Miller
我们就开始得到线索。米勒侦探
says that after the first mention of
说，
Greer on the show he and his partner
在节目中第一次提到格里尔后，他和他的搭档
were finally beginning to learn about
终于开始了解
the fugitives first few days on the run
逃犯在监狱的头几天的情况。
the day after Greer got out of jail he
格里尔出狱后的第二天，他
went to his sister's house and basically
去了姐姐家，基本上
said that he had done something bad and
说他做了一些坏事，
he wanted to change his life and he was
他想改变自己的生活，他要
leaving town so the sister had given him
离开小镇，所以姐姐给了他
some money for that purpose from there
一些钱用于这个目的
Greer had gone to Savannah Georgia to
格里尔 去了佐治亚州的萨凡纳
see his half brother Daniel Dobson so
看望他的同父异母兄弟丹尼尔·多布森，所以
detective Miller and his partner did the
侦探米勒和他的搭档也去了那里，
same he said that he hit her with the
他说他用枪打了她，
gun and it went off and I said well this
然后枪就响了，我说这
is a recording of Dobson being
是多布森接受讯问的录音，
questioned he said she died in his arm
他说她死了
he freaked out went out and buried her
他吓坏了，跑出去埋葬了
and buried her to where nobody would
把她埋到没人能
find her that's the phrase he used where
找到的地方，这是他使用的短语，
nobody would find her would find her
没人能找到她，
when he finally admitted what he did I
当他最终承认他的所作所为时，会找到她，我
did everything I could to get him off
尽了一切努力让他离开
this property that day he had taken G to
这处房产，那天他把G带到了
a truck stop and just dropped him off
一辆卡车上 停下来，就把他送到了
there and he hadn't seen him since in
那里，从 2007 年 7 月以来他再也没有见过他。
July 2007 Greer had been on the run for
格里尔在逃亡了
6 months when he got a job as a cook at
6 个月，后来他在新奥尔良的一家熟食店找到了一份厨师的工作，和
this Deli in New Orleans working
alongside this man John Morales he told
约翰·莫拉莱斯一起工作，他告诉
me that his name was Billy when I tried
我 他的名字是 Billy，当我试图
to ask him what his last name was he
问他姓什么时，他
wouldn't tell me what his last name was
拒绝告诉我姓什么。Morales
Morales says he and the man he knew as
说，他和他认识的
Billy got along so well they decided to
Billy 相处得很好，他们决定
room together and Billy began to open up
住在一起，然后 Billy 开始 公开
about his past Billy told me that he had
他的过去 比利告诉我他有
kids he told me that he that he had an
孩子 他告诉我他有一个
ex-wife and that his ex-wife wasn't
前妻 而他的前妻
allowing him to see the kids and that
不允许他见孩子
and that's why he was traveling Morales
这就是他旅行的原因 莫拉莱斯
says it wasn't long before his new
说 不久之后，他的新
roommate began to drink heavily and
室友开始酗酒，
became progressively stranger he would
变得越来越陌生，
start crying and say that he didn't want
开始哭泣，说他不想
to wind up in hell even more disturbing
落入地狱，更令人不安的
says Morales were Greer's plans for the
是莫拉莱斯说格里尔的
future he uh would say that he wanted to
未来计划是，他会说他想过上
live off grid that he wanted to um find
离网生活，他想
another wife you know at some point and
在某个时候再找一个妻子 和
and have more kids then he would take
和有更多的孩子然后他会采取
the downward spirro again say if I ever
向下螺旋再次说如果我
find out she's cheating on me I'll kill
发现她欺骗我我会杀了
her then says Morales Greer began using
她然后说莫拉莱斯格里尔开始
drugs the the men parted ways and
吸毒男人分道扬镳和
Morales moved to Florida Weeks Later a
莫拉莱斯搬到佛罗里达几周后一个
friend from the deli called to say that
朋友 熟食店打电话说，
the man they knew as Billy had just been
他们认识的比利刚刚
featured on America's Most Wanted
出现在美国头号通缉犯莫拉莱斯的名单上，他
Morales was one of five tipsters who
是五个
called police but by the time detectives
报了警的线人之一，但当侦探
arrived to investigate Greer was gone
赶到调查时，格里尔已经不见了，
now this is definitely the the hat that
现在这顶帽子肯定是
was in that photo Left Behind was his
遗留的照片是他
signature cowboy hat a possible taunt
标志性的牛仔帽，可能是
aimed at his pursu
对他
ERS it would take two more months before
追求者的嘲讽，直到两个月后才
there was another credible tip this time
有另一个可靠的线索，这次是
from Georgetown Kentucky where Greer had
来自肯塔基州乔治敦，格里尔在那里
found God he just came into a service
找到了上帝，他只是在
one Sunday morning Connie Jackson
一个星期天早上参加了一个礼拜。康妮
Osborne pastor of the Victory Tabernacle
胜利会幕教堂的牧师杰克逊·奥斯本
Church says she knew Greer as Billy
说，她认识格里尔，他叫比利·
Lesley he said he was new to the area
莱斯利，他说他是新来的，
and was looking for handyman work he
正在寻找杂工工作，他主动
offered to help around the church he
提出在教堂周围帮忙，他
seemed very nice very personable he got
看起来很好，很有风度，他
right in with different ones in the
和不同的人相处得很好
congregation
会众
participated Billy even asked to be
参加了 Billy 甚至要求接受
baptized but when he learned that his
洗礼，但当他得知他的
photograph would be taken for posterity
照片将被拍下来作为纪念时，
Pastor Cony says he nearly backed out
Cony 牧师说他几乎打消了这个念头，
but Greer changed his mind and allowed
但 Greer 改变了主意，允许
this photo to be taken of his baptism on
在一个月后的 2007 年 8 月 26 日拍摄这张照片，记录他的洗礼
August 26th
2007 one month later a member of the
congregation would see the now baptized
会众会
Billy on America's Most Wanted and if I
在《美国头号通缉犯》节目中看到已经受洗的 Billy，如果我
may quote uh one little passage from the
可以引用圣经中的一小段话
Bible to you as a pastor even Satan
给你，作为一名牧师，就连撒旦也会
disguises himself as an angel of Light
伪装成光明天使，
yes he does and it was funny when I
是的，他确实会伪装成光明天使，当我
found out he was wanted because he was
发现他被通缉是因为他
living right across the street from the
住在警察局对面的街道上，
police station hiding in plain sight but
藏身于显眼的地方，但当
by the time investigator arrived Greer
调查员到达时，格里尔
had taken off again he left in a hurry
又逃跑了，他匆忙离开，
his CD player is still turning this guy
他的 CD 播放器还在播放这个家伙 他
literally thought that he could
真的以为他
victimize not only Tammy but everybody
不仅可以伤害 Tammy，还可以伤害
else that he encountered while he was on
他在逃亡期间遇到的所有人，只是
the run and kind of just thumbing his
nose in our face more than 3 years had
在我们面前嗤之以鼻，三年多
gone by with no credible leads when
过去了，没有任何可靠的线索，直到
Cameron Welch a deputy Marshal with the
Cameron Welch 成为副法警
southern district of Texas US Marshall
德克萨斯州南部地区美国法
service joined the case Welch followed
警局加入案件韦尔奇
up old leads hoping for new information
跟进旧线索，希望获得新信息，
which one is gre's house dug deeper into
其中一个是格雷的房子，深入挖掘了
Greer's past and found yet another
格里尔的过去，并找到了另一个
ex-wife who told detectives that Greer
前妻，她告诉侦探格里尔
had abused her as well he was able to
也虐待了她，他能够
convince these women that he was just a
让这些女人相信他是
great guy and he would use him for
个好男人，他会利用他来满足
everything that that he needed and then
自己的一切需求，然后
he would move on to the next one wilch
他会转向下一个，
spent two years chasing down New Leads
花了两年时间寻找新的线索，
but Greer was nowhere to be found so
但格里尔却无处可寻，那么
where do you go from there
你该去哪里 从那里
back to square one just keeping the
回到原点，只是保持
pressure in 2012 Welch was assigned to
压力 2012 年韦尔奇被指派负责
another case Deputy Marshall Lesley
另一起案件副元帅莱斯利雷蒙
Raymond took over the now 5year long
德接手了
hunt for Greer and named it operation
对格里尔长达 5 年的追捕，并将其命名为
catch a toe and why'd you name it that
抓脚趾行动，你为什么叫它
William Geer was missing a toe and how'd
威廉·吉尔缺了一根脚趾，
he lose that I think it was a bicycle on
他是怎么失去的？我认为那是
accident when he was younger this is the
他年轻时骑自行车时发生的事故，这就是
famous missing toe famous missing toe
著名的脚趾缺失，著名的脚趾缺失，
wow the marshals believed that unique
哇，警官们相信，这一独特
feature would eventually tip people off
特征最终会让人们知道
to Greer's true identity if you have a
格里尔的 真实身份如果你家里有一个
murderer in your house and this murderer
凶手，而这个凶手
is missing a toe they're going to easily
少了一根脚趾，他们会很容易地
put two and two
把两件事
together do you think Greer's missing
联系起来，你认为格里尔缺失的
toe will help the US Marshals get their
脚趾会帮助美国法警找到他们的
man chat now with the 48 Hours team on
人吗？现在就与 48 小时团队聊天
Facebook and X
Facebook 和 X
in late 2012 when Deputy US Marshall
2012 年底，美国副
lesie Raymond took over the hunt for
法警雷蒙德接手追捕
William Greer he studied the case and
威廉·格里尔，他研究了这个案子，并
investigated New Leads with no luck this
调查了新的线索，但没有成功，这
is the best information then in 2016
是最好的信息，然后在 2016 年，
Raymond and his now associate
雷蒙德和他现在的
investigator Deputy Josh Wright returned
副法警乔希·赖特 回到
to the last place Greer had been seen I
了 Greer 最后一次出现的地方，我
just wanted to show you some pictures
只是想给你们看一些照片，
this time the TV show crime watch Daily
这次电视节目《犯罪观察日报》
was helping keep the heat on The
帮助《亡命天涯》保持热度，
Fugitive we spent some time in Kentucky
我们在肯塔基州花了一些时间
travel and interviewing people following
旅行和采访人们跟进
up leads I pretty much was sure that he
线索，我相当 可以肯定的是，他
was using the railways to move around
利用铁路四处走动，
hopping trains and the last good Solid
搭乘火车，而最后一个可靠的固体
Source put him on a train going
来源将他放在一列向南行驶的火车上，
Southbound and I said This Guy's in
我说这家伙在
Mexico
墨西哥
Raymond asked to have the outlaw placed
雷蒙德要求将这个不法之徒
on the US Marshall's 15 most wanted list
列入美国法警的 15 个头号通缉犯名单，
which alerts law enforcement agencies
提醒
worldwide to be on the lookout for Greer
世界各地的执法机构密切关注 Greer，
a $25,000 reward was also offered for
还悬赏 25,000 美元
his arrest and money helps loosen lips
缉拿 Greer，金钱有助于打开心扉，
and it wasn't long before that reward
不久之后，那笔悬赏
and Raymond's instincts appeared to be
和 Raymond 的直觉似乎得到了
paying
off we obtained information from a
回报，我们从
reliable source that William Greer had
可靠的来源获得了信息 威廉·格里尔在
set up a new life South of the Border in
Mexico the deputies would not tell us
墨西哥边境以南开始了新生活，警员们不会告诉我们
who that reliable source was but someone
那个可靠的消息来源是谁，但
in Mexico had called in a tip telling
墨西哥有人打来电话，告诉
investigators that they knew where Greer
调查人员，他们知道格里尔的
was hiding out we'd investigated
藏身之处，我们已经调查了
hundreds of tips over the course of this
数百人 在逃犯调查过程中，我们收到了大量线索，
fugitive investigation and so we knew
因此我们知道
that it had to be verified
必须核实，
but US Marshals don't have jurisdiction
但美国法警
in Mexico so operation catcho was now in
在墨西哥没有管辖权，因此抓捕行动现在
the hands of Mexican authorities who
由墨西哥当局负责，他们
checked out the tip while the Marshall's
在法警办公室进行调查时核实了线索。
office was kept informed at every turn
随时了解情况
Mexican police were now surveilling the
墨西哥警方现在正在监视那个他们
man they all hoped was William Greer I
都希望是威廉·格里尔的人我
can tell you I did not sleep Jos and I
可以告诉你我没有睡觉乔斯和我
were anxiously awaiting to find out what
焦急地等待着
the results were oh yeah the next
结果哦是的第二天
morning they got the confirmation they
早上他们得到了他们
hoped for the man spotted in Mexico was
希望的那个人的确认 在墨西哥被发现的
indeed William Greer now he had to be
确实是威廉·格里尔，现在他必须被
captured Mexican authorities learned
抓获。墨西哥当局了解到，
that Greer was living practically Off
格里尔住
the Grid down this Dirt Road in the tiny
southern town of Taxco he had a wife and
南部小镇塔斯科的一条土路上，过着与世隔绝的生活，他有一个妻子和
two young children people tell me he was
两个年幼的孩子，人们告诉我他
very reserved he was very nice very
非常内敛，他非常友善，非常
polite hardworking guy but very reserved
有礼貌，工作努力，但非常内敛，
Paulina Gomez a producer based in Mexico
墨西哥城的制片人 Paulina Gomez
City recently traveled to taxo for 48
最近前往塔克索 48
hours and learned that Greer had most
小时，了解到 Greer 很
likely been in Mexico for about 6 to 7
可能已经在墨西哥待了大约 6 到 7
years he met his new wife while living
年，他遇到了他的新妻子 当他们住
in the Mexican state of chapus by the
在墨西哥的查普斯州时，
time they moved to Taxco they had an
他们搬到了塔斯科，他们有一个
infant daughter and toddler son named
婴儿女儿和一个蹒跚学步的儿子，名叫威廉，
William he's the biological father Yes
他是
of these two
这两个
kids by 2017 locals say Greer had been
孩子的亲生父亲。是的，到 2017 年，当地人说 Greer 已经
living in Taxco for about 3 years we
在塔斯科生活了大约 3 年，我们
called him El Gringo do you didn't know
打电话给 他 El Gringo，你不知道
his name no okay tilo Perez lived next
他的名字吗？不，好吧，tilo Perez 住
door to the fugitive and says he was a
在逃犯隔壁，他说他是个
good
好
neighbor he was calm he didn't mess with
邻居，他很冷静，从不惹
anyone we had learned that he had a
任何人，我们了解到他有一家
carpentry company he was building
木工公司，他正在建造
furniture and he employed a couple
家具 并雇佣了几名
employees Greer had been a master of
员工格里尔是
avoiding arrest but on the morning of
逃避逮捕的高手，但在
November 28th 2017 his days on the Run
2017年11月28日早上，他的逃亡之路
finally came to an end when Greer was
终于结束了，格里尔
taken by surprise by a swarm of
被一群便衣警察突然袭击，
undercover
police us martial service would like to
美国军事部门想
announce the arrest of William
宣布逮捕威廉·
Joseph he completely denied that it was
约瑟夫，他完全否认是
him I just wish I could have been there
他，我只希望我能
to see his face when they removed his
亲眼看到他们脱下他的
shoe they did remove shoe absolutely and
鞋子时的表情，他们确实脱掉了鞋子，
what did they see a missing toe
他们看到了什么，一个缺失的脚趾
operation catch a toe correct had
手术抓住了脚趾，
finally succeeded that's right it was a
终于纠正了 成功了，没错，
good feeling and I wasn't crying he was
感觉很好，我没有哭，他在
crying we might to tear
哭，我们可能会流泪，
up Nikki was 18 years old when she got
当尼基18岁的时候，她
the news that her mother's killer had
得知杀害她母亲的凶手
finally been captured I just cried I
终于被抓获了，我只是哭了，我
just remember crying cuz it was not
只记得我哭了，因为 没
expected it was just over an
想到这只是一个
overwhelming
压倒性的
feeling Greer was promptly flown to
感觉 Greer 被迅速送往
George Bush Intercontinental Airport in
Houston where he was arrested on us
休斯顿的乔治布什洲际机场，在那里他在美国
soil these were the handcuffs used on
本土被捕，这些是
William
William
Greer and how satisfying was that
Greer 戴上的手铐，这是多么令人满意啊，
extremely satisfying lesie Raymond says
非常令人满意，Lesie Raymond 说
Greer actually recognized him from all
Greer 实际上从他所有的电视报道中认出了
the TV coverage he saw me and said hey I
他 看到我，说嘿，我
know who you are I'm your biggest fan he
知道你是谁，我是你最大的粉丝，他和
was exactly how I imagined he'd be very
我想象的完全一样，他非常
arrogant very eager to tell us how he
傲慢，非常渴望告诉我们他是如何
eluded us and that's really what we were
躲避我们的追捕的，而这正是我们
interested in as fugitive investigators
作为逃犯调查员所感兴趣的，
we wanted to know how how did he get
我们想要 想知道他是如何
away for so long and how did to get to
逃脱这么久的，又是如何到达
Mexico the deputy Marshalls say they
墨西哥的，副法警说，他们
always suspected that Greer had been
一直怀疑格里尔一直在
getting around on 18 wheelers and trains
乘坐18轮卡车和火车，
reer confirmed that he did end up taking
后来证实他最终
a train from Kentucky and he headed west
从肯塔基州乘坐火车，他 一直向西行驶，
until he found another train heading
直到他发现另一列向南行驶的火车，就
south and that's how he ended up
这样他最终
Crossing into
穿越
Mexico lean up against the there chest
墨西哥，靠在胸口上。
Raymond and Wright delivered Greer to
雷蒙德和赖特把格里尔送到了
the Sheriff's Office where Sid Miller
警长办公室，西德·米勒
now a sergeant investigator
现在是一名警长 调查员
attempted to interrogate
试图审问
him that's really why you're
他，这就是你来
here Miller tried to push Greer to tell
这里的原因米勒试图迫使格里尔告诉
him where he had buried Tammy and I was
他埋葬塔米的地方，我
hoping be able to call the family
希望今晚能给家人打电话，
tonight and give some good news Greer
告诉他们一些好消息格里尔
suggested that he would cooperate get
建议他合作，让
I'm not here to around but instead he
我 我不在这里，但他却
asked for an attorney and shut down the
要求请律师，并结束了
interview now whether you guys are
采访，现在你们是否
willing to work with me or lot that's
愿意和我合作，这还有
get to be seen but I'm here to work with
待观察，但我在这里和你们一起工作，
you guys but I need to talk to
但我需要和你们谈谈
about with Greer Behind Bars it was now
关于格里尔入狱，现在由
up to the Harris County District
哈里斯县地方
Attorney's office to try the case I was
检察官办公室来审理此案，我当时
like okay we're finally going to have
想，好吧，我们终于可以有
some closure but what ended up happening
个了结了，但最终发生的事情让
stunned just about everyone you were
所有人都震惊了，你很
disappointed weren't you I'm greatly
失望，不是吗？ 我非常
disappointed
失望
it was now 2023 nearly 6 years since
现在是 2023 年，
William Greer had been captured and now
威廉·格里尔被捕近 6 年了，现在
the 58-year-old was still sitting in
这位 58 岁的老人仍然坐在
this jail awaiting trial Co and the
这个监狱里等待审判，
legal process had slowed the proceedings
法律程序已经使诉讼程序进展缓慢，
to a crawl painful says Nikki who longed
痛苦地说 Nikki
for justice and finally locating her
渴望正义，并最终找到了她
mother's missing remains recently around
母亲的遗体最近在
the trial date I would have dreams that
审判日期前后失踪，我梦见
I was digging and I would just find her
自己在挖掘，然后
in the most random places Sid Miller was
在最随机的地方找到她。西德·米勒
prepared to testify at trial what's the
准备在审判中作证，
strongest evidence you have against two
你有什么最有力的证据来证明两个
children hearing what they heard both of
孩子都听到了他们听到的
Greer's sons who believe they heard
格里尔的儿子们相信他们听到了
their father shoot and kill Tammy Meyers
他们的父亲开枪打死塔米·迈耶斯，他们
were on the witness list and while gre's
是证人名单上的人物，虽然格里尔的
brother was now deceased the prosecution
兄弟现在已经去世，但控方
had that recording of what he told
有他
detectives back in 2007 he said that he
在 2007 年告诉侦探的录音，他说他
hit her with the gun and it went off and
用枪打了她，然后
then of course there was Greer's dash
然后当然还有 Greer 的行车
cam confession oh my God the worst thing
记录仪供认，天哪，这是我做过的最坏的事情，
I ever did
was coupled with obviously the evidence
再加上
that we found at the house the blood the
我们在家里找到的证据，血迹和
bullets seems like a strong case to me
子弹，对我来说似乎是一个强有力的证据，
but Nikki says the prosecution was
但 Nikki 说，检方很
nervous worried that they were Miss ing
紧张 担心他们错过了
a critical piece of evidence Tammy's
一个关键的证据塔米的
body only days before trial Nikki says
尸体在审判前几天尼基说
she and her family were contacted by
她和她的家人联系了
assistant DA Stephanie Abner about a
助理检察官斯蒂芬妮阿布纳关于
potential plea deal to avoid a trial she
可能的认罪协议，以避免审判，她
said would y'all consider man slaughter
说会
if he tells you where she's at and I
如果他告诉你她在哪儿，你们都会认为这是谋杀，我
said you know what yes we will we just
说你知道吗，我们会的，我们只是
want to know where our mom's at we want
想知道我们的妈妈在哪里，我们想要
a resting place where we can go to where
一个安息的地方，我们可以去，
our children can go to so we took the
我们的孩子也可以去，所以我们带走了
deal because
因为
they also made it seem like there was
他们也让人觉得他
not another choice that he would
没有其他选择，
probably walk free if we went to trial
如果我们接受审判，他可能会被释放，这是
as a condition of the deal Greer was now
交易的条件，格里尔现在
required to show detectives where he had
必须向侦探展示他
buried Tammy's body I had checked him
埋葬塔米尸体的地方，我已经检查过他
out of the jail I had our warant te with
了 监狱里我有
us because he was such a Flight Risk
我们的逮捕令，因为他有逃跑的风险。
Nikki says when she heard where they all
尼基说，当她听到他们
ended up she was crushed they were
最后都到了哪里时，她很伤心。他们正在
searching for her mother not far from
寻找她的母亲，离
where Greer first Conn confessed to
格里尔第一次承认
killing her and way too close to the
杀害她的地方不远，而且太近了 回到
home Nikki grew up in he walked up and
尼基长大的家，他沿着
down the road and cuffs right next to my
路走来走去，就在我
dad's house that went on for 3 Days says
爸爸家旁边，持续了三天，
Sid Miller nothing was found
西德·米勒说，什么也没找到，
investigators then called off the search
调查人员随后取消了搜查，
Greer still got his deal we were told he
格里尔仍然得到了他的交易，我们被告知他
will get his deal only if he tells us
会 只有告诉我们
where he buried her I think it's bull
他把她埋在哪里，他才能同意 我认为这完全是
crap and I think that he just once again
胡说八道，我认为他只是又一次
is getting off for murdering her the
因为谋杀她而受到惩罚，
District Attorney's Office declined our
地方检察官办公室拒绝了我们的
requests for an interview but gave us
采访请求，但给了我们
this statement We Believe Greer was
一份声明，我们相信格里尔是
acting in good faith and tried to lead
出于善意，并试图引导
law enforcement to her body so much time
执法部门找到她 身体
has passed and the terrain has changed
已经过去了这么久，地形也发生了变化，
but we believe he tried on January 22nd
但我们相信他于 2024 年 1 月 22 日尝试过
2024 Greer appeared in court for
Greer 出庭
sentencing it had been 17 years since
受审，自 Nikki 攻击他以来已经过去了 17 年，
Nikki laid ey on him you know everyone
你知道每个人都
kept telling me he's not going to even
告诉我他甚至不会
look at you he he'll be ashamed and he
看 你他他会感到羞愧，
walked into court and he stared right at
他走进法庭，盯着
us you staring back yes you make eye
我们看，你也盯着我们看，是的，你
contact with him I was just trying to
和他眼神接触，我只是
let him know like we are not giving up
想让他知道，我们不会放弃，
we're not backing down we are not scared
我们不会退缩，我们会 不怕
of him she trusted you we trusted you
他 她信任你 我们相信你
frustrated and angry Nikki gave a victim
沮丧和愤怒 尼基代表她的家人发表了一份受害人
impact statement on behalf of her family
影响陈述
we had to look at the man who murdered
我们不得不看着谋杀
her mom walk around our neighborhood
她母亲的那个男人 在我们家附近走来走去
trying to remember where he put her body
试图回忆起他把她的尸体放在哪里
how do you not remember how was I not
你怎么了 不记得我为什么没有
eating at you every day since I don't
每天吃你的东西 那天因为我不
know what I was expecting maybe him to
知道我期望什么也许他会
talk back I don't know but I stopped and
顶嘴我不知道但我停下来
I said do you do you remember and he
我说你还记得吗他
just stared at me you say you're a
只是盯着我你说你是一个
changed man that you're a Christian and
改变了的人你 一个基督徒，
if that's the case you will continue to
如果是这样的话，你会继续
talk and help us try to find her you
和我们交谈，帮助我们找到她，你
want forgiveness that's what I need I
想要宽恕，这就是我所需要的，我
need to know and I need to find her
需要知道，我需要找到她，
Greer's senten for killing Tammy Myers
格里尔因杀害塔米·迈尔斯
and fleeing is 10 years do you have
并逃走而被判处 10 年徒刑，你有吗
anything to say Sir as to why senton
先生，有什么可说的吗？为什么 senton
should not now be PR against you no with
现在不应该对你进行公关？不，
time served he will be free in 3 years
服刑期满后，他将在 3 年后
perhaps even sooner 10 years for taking
甚至 10 年后获得自由，因为他
someone's life away and then just
夺走了某人的生命，然后将
disposing of them like garbage that's
他们像垃圾一样处理掉，
not enough if you ask me he should be in
如果你问这还不够 对我来说，他应该
jail forever Lesley Raymond now retired
永远呆在监狱里。莱斯利·雷蒙德现已退休，
says Greer better behave if he does
他说格里尔最好表现好一点，如果他做了
anything I'll come back out of
什么，我会从
retirement I'll find him again are you
退休中回来，我会再找到他，你
worried that and it could be as we are
担心吗，就像我们
speaking now in as little as 3 years
现在说的那样，在短短的时间内 3年
there may be more
可能会有更多的
victims I am concerned about that are
受害者我担心的是，
you as well Cameron yes
你也是 好吧，Cameron，是的，
sir meanwhile the search for Tammy
先生，与此同时，在
continues without law enforcement
没有执法人员的情况下，对Tammy的搜寻仍在继续，
morning and thank you for being here
早上好，谢谢你来到这里，
Texas equa search is a nonprofit
德克萨斯州Equa Search是一个非盈利的
volunteer search and Recovery
志愿者搜索和恢复
organization that offers their services
组织，
to law enforcement and families for free
免费为执法人员和家庭提供服务，
so everyone this is Nikki here this is
所以大家，我是Nikki，这是
Tammy daughter
Tammy 女儿，
hi going make me cry can you have all
你好，让我哭了，你能让所有的
the volunteers out here I don't know any
志愿者都来这里吗？我不认识
of them and they have kept me updated
他们中的任何一个，他们一直让我了解最新情况
and just you know made me feel so loved
，你知道，这让我感到如此被爱，
we ask you pray for the family I know
我们请求你为这个家庭祈祷，我知道
they're looking for closure they prayed
他们 他们
over us they have committed to helping a
为我们祈祷，他们承诺帮助一个
daughter on a mission but being out here
女儿完成一项任务，但在这里，
um so close to home and just possibly
嗯，离家这么近，可能很快
close to finding her is a little
就能找到她，这有点
overwhelming it won't be easy says K9
让人不知所措，这并不容易，K9
Handler Brenda Peak how large an area
Handler Brenda Peak 说，有多大 今天
are you searching
你要搜索的区域
today total about 4 Acres she says even
总共约 4 英亩，她说即使是
highly trained dogs will have trouble
训练有素的狗也难以
detecting the scent of Bones buried
察觉近二十年前埋葬的骨头的气味，
nearly two decades ago a lot of people
很多人
won't take this task because it is it's
不会接受这项任务，因为它是
a difficult one it's challenging okay so
一项困难的任务，很有挑战性，好吧
these are the search
这是
areas on this day in February 2024 there
2024 年 2 月的这一天的搜索区域，
were three kadab dogs with handlers
有三个 卡达布犬和训犬师
watch the barb wire and more than 30
看守着铁丝网，30多名
volunteers covering the 4 acres and a
志愿者覆盖了4英亩的土地，还有
spot that Nikki and her dad requested to
尼基和她爸爸要求
be searched can I show you something I
搜查的地方，我能给你看一样东西吗？我
think right here my dad works with the
想就在这里，我爸爸和这家酒店
owner of the that goes all the way back
的主人一起工作， 回到
here it takes a lot to not let it
这里，我花了很大力气才不让它
consume me I try to focus on my kids and
消耗我，我试着把注意力集中在我的孩子和
my husband but they will tell you I'm
丈夫身上，但他们会告诉你，我
very determined if I just have free time
非常坚定，如果我在家有空闲时间，
at home I'm on my computer looking at
我会在电脑上看
Maps looking at Old areas what they
地图 查看旧区
looked like then and what they look like
当时的样子，
now that opening to that left it could
现在的样子，打开那个开口，可能
be
就是
it after searching for about 5 hours the
它了，在搜索了大约 5 个小时后，
team called it quits for the day but
团队宣布当天的工作结束，但
there was a glimmer of hope all three
仍有一线希望，三只
canines had reacted to Something in the
警犬都做出了反应
same area they think that it's possible
他们认为，
that he drove into this area and that
他有可能开车来到这个地区，
maybe he buried her somewhere over here
也许他把她埋在了这里的某个地方，
since there are all three dogs have
因为三只狗都
picked up on this area but Texas equa
发现了这个地区，但德克萨斯州的
search didn't have the right tools to
搜救人员没有合适的工具来
dig properly so they committed to trying
挖得好，所以他们决定再试
again until then Nikki will be out
一次，直到那时 Nikki 才会
searching on her own do you believe she
自己出去寻找 你相信有
will one day be
一天她会被
found I'm not sure I am trying to stay
找到吗？我不确定，我试图保持
hopeful but between weather and animals
希望，但在天气和动物之间，
and if he's telling the truth or not
以及他是否在说实话，
that it's you know it could be hard I'm
你知道这可能很难，我
hoping we can put us to rest and give
希望我们能把我们 让
Tammy a place get these kids some
塔米休息一下，给这些孩子一个安身之所，让
closure in their life somewhere they can
他们可以有个地方
pay their
表达他们的
respects my kids are young but they are
敬意，我的孩子们还小，但他们
fully aware of what's
完全知道
Happening they just want so badly for
发生了什么，他们只是非常希望
her to be
她能被
found I'm just trying to stay hopeful
找到，我只是试着保持希望
for myself but also for my children and
为了我自己，也为了我的孩子，
you know just keep looking cuz I don't
你知道，继续寻找，因为我
want to give up
不想放弃
a fertility doctor in his wife partners
一名生育医生，他的妻子
in business and marriage until she's
在商业和婚姻中的合作伙伴，直到她
found dead after an alleged fall mother
被发现死于据称坠落
of twins a boy and a girl could a doctor
的双胞胎母亲一个男孩和一个 一个女孩可以一个给
who gives women hope in life take a
女人生活希望的医生夺走一个
woman's life he was in many eyes a saint
女人的生命，在很多人眼里，他是一个圣人。
48 hours Saturday on CDs and streaming
星期六 48 小时在 CD 上和
on Paramount
派拉蒙
[音乐] 流媒体上，
plus I'm anarie green and welcome to
另外我是 anarie green，欢迎来到
postmortem this week I'm joined by
本周的验尸，我加入了
correspondent Peter vanent and producer
记者 Peter vanent 和制片人
Judy ryack to discuss their latest
Judy ryack 讨论他们的最新一
episode the day my mother vanished if
集《我母亲失踪的那天》，如果
you haven't listened to this episode yet
你还没有听过这集，
you know what you can do you can find it
你知道你可以做什么，你可以
just below this one in your podcast feed
在你的播客提要中找到它，
so this case was really unlike others
所以这个案件与本季的其他案件不同，
this season because authorities didn't
因为当局 他们
have to figure out who killed Tammy
不需要弄清楚是谁杀了 Tammy
Meyers they had to find the person who
Meyers，他们必须找到
admits to killing her that person is
承认杀害她的人，这个人就是
William Greer and it takes over a decade
William Greer，当局花了十多年的时间才
for authorities to find him to track him
找到他，追捕他，
down and arrest him that happens in 2017
逮捕他，这件事发生在 2017 年
when did 48 Hours learn about this case
48 Hours 是否了解这个案子？
this case came to us uh via Michelle
这个案子是通过 Michelle Sagona 了解到的，她是
sagona one of the development producers
for this hour who actually used to work
本节目的开发制片人之一，她曾经参与
on America's Most Wanted and interviewed
制作《美国头号通缉犯》，并
um Nikki when she was eight years old 9
在 Nikki 八岁或九岁时采访过她，
years old um so yeah so all the footage
所以是的
that we have in the show Michelle was
节目中的所有镜头，米歇尔都
there for that so she heard about
在场，她听说了
Greer's arrest and the plea deal and and
格里尔被捕和认罪协议，并
brought it to us which made it a very
把这些带给了我们，这
personal uh story for us to work on this
对我们来说是一个非常私人的故事，这
is a case that um
是一个让人愤怒的案件
infuriates
inspires uh the people that we met along
启发 我们一路上遇到的
the way here some of them are are just
一些人都是
remarkable characters but how this case
了不起的人物，但这个案子的
turned out is just shocking to me and
结果让我很震惊，
yeah and um to Judy and we're uh we're
对朱迪来说也是如此，我们
still trying to deal with the aftermath
仍在努力处理善后事宜
of this because it's it's a very
因为这是一个非常令人
frustrating case well let's let's start
沮丧的案例，好吧，让我们
with Tammy's daughter Nikki she is such
从塔米的女儿尼基开始，她是
a pivotal character in this story what
这个故事中如此关键的角色，
was it like interviewing her well she is
采访她感觉如何，嗯，她是
um one of the heroes in this story such
这个故事中的英雄之一，一个如此
an inspiring young woman try to imagine
鼓舞人心的年轻女性，尝试 想象一下，
anyone listening to this go back when
当
you were 7 years old it's a few days
你 7 岁的时候，
before Christmas and your mother
距离圣诞节只有几天了，你的母亲
disappears vanishes off the face of the
消失了，从地球表面消失了，
Earth you never see or hear from her
你再也见不到她或听到她的消息，
again and they were so close and Nikki
他们曾经如此亲密，
was 9 years old when she was first
当时 Nikki 9 岁 她首先接受了
interviewed by America's Most Wanted and
美国头号通缉犯的采访，
and she actually read a little poem and
她还朗读了一首小诗，
she helped carry the show and inspire a
帮助推动了节目的播出，并激励了
nation to try to find the person
全国人民去寻找
responsible for taking her mother away
夺走她母亲的凶手，
from her so interviewing her you you
所以在采访她的时候，你能
sense her enormous heart she's a gentle
感受到她那颗巨大的心 一个 温柔的
soul and you also sense the pain of all
灵魂，你也能感受到
of these years of all the things in her
这些年来她生活中的所有痛苦，
life she wasn't able to share with her
她无法与母亲分享她生命中的一切，
mother cuz she was taken from them and
因为她被带走了，
the hunt for justice is in her her DNA
寻求正义是她的DNA，
and such a part of her yeah and we noted
这是她生命中不可或缺的一部分 是的，我们注意到
that she didn't cry in the interview she
她在采访中没有哭，她
never got emotional that's how poised
从来没有情绪化，这就是
she is how accustomed she is to talking
她平静的一面，她习惯于
about the story telling the story trying
谈论这个故事，讲述这个故事，试图
to get attention for her mother for the
引起她母亲的注意，
case I mean she is really really amazing
我的意思是她 真的非常了不起
and you know I have to say I attribute
，你知道，我不得不说，
that to her mother and her father her
这要归功于她的母亲和父亲，她的
mom must have been amazing because
母亲一定很了不起，因为
Nikki's so strong and her dad did such a
尼基很坚强，而她的父亲
good job of raising her alone it's it's
独自把她抚养得很好，这真是太
remarkable really what was so powerful
了不起了，到底是什么让她如此强大
for us was Nikki's dad Ryan Meyers now
我们是 Nikki 的父亲 Ryan Meyers，现在
folks I'm going to do a little text in
伙计们，我要在
here for you because he is a classic
这里为你们写一段文字，因为他是一个经典的
cowboy right he's got the look right out
牛仔，他的外表就像
of a the old maror cigarette ads or
老马罗香烟广告或
Clint Eastwood western he's got a way of
克林特·伊斯特伍德的西部片一样，他有一种
talking that Texas Cowboy talk he starts
谈到德克萨斯牛仔话题，他开始
talking about Tammy the love of his life
谈论塔米的爱
and he starts blubbering I'm sitting
他开始哭泣，我坐在
across from him
他对面
and uh I I'm almost tearing up he loved
，我几乎要哭了，他
her so much and the tears that he sheds
那么爱她，他流下的眼泪，
and throughout our hour um you see that
在我们相处的整个小时里，你会看到，
it just breaks your heart and it's
这让你心碎，
that's that helps us get so invested in
这就是 这让我们对他们的故事产生浓厚的兴趣，
their stories because we so desperately
因为我们迫切
want this to have a happy ending yeah I
希望这个故事能有一个圆满的结局，是的，我
just like this guy doesn't deserve all
只是觉得这个家伙不值得经历
of this it's it's been it was it's been
这一切，从
such a tough road for him in so many
很多方面来说，他走过的路都很艰难
ways he's so sweet too so sweet um okay
他也太可爱了，嗯，好吧，
let's get to the case um Tammy goes
让我们开始讨论这个案子吧，嗯，Tammy
missing on December 19th 2006 but on
于 2006 年 12 月 19 日失踪，但在
December 22nd 2006 authorities find a
2006 年 12 月 22 日，当局在路边发现了一个
highly intoxicated half naked man on the
醉酒的半裸男子，
side of the road who was that and what
他是谁，发生了什么事，
was going on why did they end up out
为什么 他们最后都
there we laugh cuz folks try to just
出来了，我们笑了，因为大家试着
imagine this scenario a couple of uh uh
想象这个场景，几个呃呃
deputies with a a rural uh Sheriff's dep
副警长和一个农村呃警长的
department they have a a call of a of a
部门，他们接到了一个电话 一辆
pickup truck that's gone off the road
小卡车驶离了道路，
they get there there's no driver it's
他们到了那里，没有司机，周围一片
pitch black they're looking around they
漆黑，他们四处张望，
got their flashlights out and then by
拿出手电筒，然后，
George here comes a guy out of the
一个男人从黑暗中走出来，
darkness wearing just a shirt uh no
只穿着一件衬衫，呃，没有
underwear pants anything and uh what a
内衣，裤子，什么的，呃，什么的
sight to see and he comes up and and
看到这一幕，他走了过来，
they have a dash cam on them and he says
他们身上有行车记录仪，他说，
I'm sorry it was an accident the gun
对不起，这是一场意外，枪
just went off and the officer what are
刚刚走火了，警察
you talking about Tammy my wife and the
你在说什么，塔米，我的妻子，
gun went off and I accidentally shot her
枪走火了， 我无意中射中了她的
in the chest and I watched her
胸部，然后看着她
die now how are you taking all this in
死去，你怎么能接受这一切，
you're just out on patrol here's a guy
你只是在巡逻，这里有一个
half naked and he's saying something
半裸的男人，他在说些
absolutely what yeah and not just that
什么，是的，不仅仅是
he tells them where it happened I mean
他告诉他们事情发生的地点，我 意思是
he he tells them everything they need to
他告诉他们所有他们需要
know yeah right but I think what
知道的事情，是的，但我认为
happened was because they were caught
发生的事情是因为他们被夹在
between two Sheriff's offices two
两个警长办公室和两个司法
jurisdictions he fell through the cracks
管辖区之间，他
a little bit right but I mean to me it
有点被忽视了，但我的意思是，对我来说，
was stunning that he was out the next
他被排除在外是令人震惊的
day I mean I get it there's two
第二天，我的意思是，我明白这是两个
different jurisdictions but even when I
不同的司法管辖区，但即使我
was watching the dash cam you know he's
在看 行车记录仪，你知道他喝醉了，
he's intoxicated he's kind of in and out
他有点醉了，
it's not sort of a crystal clear
这不是一个清晰的
statement but it's enough you would
陈述，但足够了，你会
think to hold him just a little bit
认为再抱他一会儿，
longer right well remember after he
对吧，记得在他
sobered up a bit and they were asking
清醒了一点之后，他们
now what did you say about what you did
现在问 你是怎么回答的？你
to her well I didn't do that and then he
对她做了什么？我没做那事，然后
he went quiet on them also they sent a
他就对他们保持沉默，他们还派了
couple of deputies over to the house the
几个警员去
other County to do a welfare check
另一个县的房子做福利检查
and they knocked on the door nobody
，他们敲了门 没有人
answered they couldn't see anything as
回答，他们
they peered Through the Windows now they
透过窗户往里看，什么也看不见，现在他们
didn't go in I think if they had gone in
没有进去，我想如果他们进去了，
they would have seen blood and this
他们会看到血，这
would have a very different uh ending to
会有一个非常不同的结局，
it but the fact that they didn't he
但事实上他们没有 '
according to the officers he was clearly
根据警官的说法，他显然
intoxicated you know I think is this guy
喝醉了，你知道，我认为这家伙
just talking out of the side of his
只是在
mouth is he just is this just the
胡言乱语，他只是在用
alcohol talking to us it's their County
酒精跟我们说话，这是他们的县，
it's our County and it just falls
这是我们的县，它只是
through the cracks and no one goes back
从 裂缝，没有人
to the site where his truck was no they
回到他的卡车停放的地方，没有他们，
did they would eventually go back and
他们会 最后他们回去那里
look for Tammy there yeah they searched
找 Tammy，是的，他们在
for Tammy's body there and remember in
那里搜寻 Tammy 的尸体，记得
in his truck they find Tammy's cell
在他的卡车里他们找到了 Tammy 的
phone so I mean you have this link and
手机，所以我的意思是你有这个链接，
and eventually uh they get a search
最后他们拿到了搜查
warrant and they go over and and go
令，他们过去
inside that house and and who do they
进去了 那所房子，他们
find Judy uh cleaning up in there his
找到了谁朱迪，呃，在里面打扫卫生，他的
brother-in-law now I had a question
姐夫，现在我也有一个问题，
about that as well because I mean what
因为我的意思是，
did he think he was doing there and even
他认为自己在那里做什么，
if he didn't suspect anything once the
即使他没有怀疑过任何事情
cops show up you would think he would
警察出现你会认为他会
have started to ask himself well why did
开始问自己
why did he ask me to clean up his house
为什么他让我打扫他的房子我的
I mean we don't really know right they
意思是我们真的不知道他们
didn't tell us much about that they
没有告诉我们太多关于他们
didn't charge him with anything um he
没有收费的事情 他什么，嗯，他
claimed he didn't know that a crime had
说他不知道
occurred so um who knows I mean we'll
发生了犯罪，所以嗯，谁知道，我的意思是我们
never know how much the brother-in-law
永远不会知道姐夫有多
knew this is clearly a crime scene and
清楚这显然是一个犯罪现场，
it's a very odd part of this story that
这是这件事非常奇怪的一部分 这个故事
is full of oddities right but like you
充满了奇怪的事情，但正如你所
point out he was never charged with
指出的，他从来没有被指控
anything at all but you know later once
任何罪名，但你知道，一旦
authorities hear what Greer's Sons say
当局听到 格里尔的儿子说
they heard uh they were they decided
他们听到了什么，他们决定
they're going to charge him they're
要指控他，他们
going to charge William Greer with
要指控威廉·格里尔犯有
first-degree murder um the sons say that
一级谋杀罪，嗯，儿子们说
they hear him arguing with Tammy and and
他们听到他在和塔米争吵，
did they hear a
他们有没有听到
gunshots they heard there was arguing
枪声 听到有人在争吵，
they heard they heard a shot and then it
他们听到了枪声，
later came came out that they also claim
后来他们还
they could hear their father speaking to
听到他们的父亲在和
Tammy and he says are you dead are you
塔米说话，他说你死了吗，你
still alive right and and authorities
还活着吗，当局
considered what they heard including
考虑了他们所听到的内容，包括
this quote to be powerful evidence
这句话 成为强有力的证据，
combined with a man who's confessing
再加上一个
half naked out out in the dark but
在黑暗中半裸着承认
confessing that he had shot Tammy and
自己枪杀了塔米并
watched her die hello I think we got
看着她死去的男人，你好，我觉得我们
ourselves case here right even if we
在这里找到了自己的案子，即使我们
don't have a body there's no body but
没有尸体，也没有尸体，但是
there's everything but right I mean
什么都有，但我的意思是，
you've got you've got her blood in his
你在他的房子里发现了她的血迹，
house you've got her phone in his car
你在他的车里发现了她的手机，
have him on dash cam saying that he shot
他的行车记录仪上显示他开枪打死了
her and watched her die and and then he
她，然后看着她死去，然后他
flees folks who what innocent guy flees
逃跑了，人们 无辜的人逃跑
and then he lies I mean it's it seems
然后他撒谎我的意思是看起来
It's on a platter to me right yes yes
对我来说这是小菜一碟，是的，
yeah I've seen a lot less in bodyless
是的，我在无体审判中看到的少了很多，
Trials yeah so as you guys say William
所以正如你们所说，威廉·
Greer he's on the Run uh but thanks to
格里尔在逃，但是多亏了
shows like America's Most Wanted crime
像美国头号通缉犯这样的节目，
watch Daily authorities always seem to
每日观察当局似乎总是
have a pulse on him but he's still able
有一个 脉搏跳动，但他仍然
to get away I mean people watch these
能够逃脱，我的意思是人们看这些
shows but he's still kind of popping up
节目，但他仍然出现
in different communities making friends
在不同的社区，交朋友，
right and just kind of bopping along how
只是跟着一起跳，
was he able to do that that's true right
他是怎么做到的，这是真的，
he was still bopping along people are
他仍然跟着一起跳
watching across the country you know
全国各地的人都在观看，你知道
it's funny cuz we asked like was this a
这很有趣，因为我们问这是
good thing or a bad thing cuz every time
好事还是坏事，因为每次
he saw himself on television he would
他在电视上看到自己，他都会
get up and take off right and the
站起来，然后离开，
Marshall said it's actually a good thing
马歇尔说这实际上是
they want him to keep moving because
他们想要的一件好事 让他继续前进，因为
eventually he'll make a mistake and
最终他会犯错误，
they'll catch him interesting and he's
他们会发现他很有趣，他
not using cards cuz he's got a bunch of
不使用卡，因为他
cash from his business I guess right
从他的生意中得到了一大笔现金，我想是的，
probably probably and you know women
很可能，你知道女人
would do things for him you know pay for
会为他做事，你知道 支付
things and yeah and in New Orleans when
费用，是的，在纽约 奥尔良，当
he worked at a deli they paid him in
他在一家熟食店工作时，他们用现金支付他工资，
cash so there wasn't a paper trail right
所以没有书面记录，
and he rode a bicycle everywhere and he
他骑着自行车到处走，他
was quite the charmer yep yeah it's
很有魅力，是的，是的，
quite
remarkable how agile he was in being
他非常敏捷，
able to just pick up and go and then
能够拿起东西， 然后去
ingratiate himself with someone else
讨好别人，
like that and just start another new
开始新的
life and also think of the casualties
生活，同时也想想
that he left behind cuz these women many
他留下的伤亡，因为这些女人中有很多
of them cared deeply some of them fell
都深爱着他，有些人
in love with him but once he got word he
爱上了他，但一旦他得到消息，他
was on America's Most Wanted the most
就会 美国头号通缉犯，
recent addition of this case he's
最近又增加了一个，
gone the US Marshals were involved in
美国法警参与了
this case and they were so invested in
这个案子，他们对这个案子投入了如此多的精力，
the case even one held on to the
甚至有一个人还拿着
handcuffs that they used to arrest
手铐，他们用手铐逮捕了
William Greer it's a little trophy I
威廉·格里尔，我
guess what was it like interviewing them
想那是一个小小的奖杯 对我来说，这就像采访他们，
uh for me this was one of the great
Delights of of our show uh folks we love
我们节目的一大乐趣，我们喜欢
doing stories in Texas because everyone
在德克萨斯州讲故事，因为那里的每个人
seems to be a character actor down there
似乎都是角色演员，
and these US Marshals are right off of a
而这些美国法警就像
cowboy set they are plain talking
牛仔一样，他们很朴素
straight talking they are absolutely
直言不讳 他们很有
driven they have a saying they told us
干劲，他们有句名言，我们
when we did the interview their saying
在采访时告诉我们，他们说的
is Justice is coming it's just like
是正义即将到来，就像
something Clint Eastwood would say right
克林特·伊斯特伍德会说的一样，
wow I mean that's the nature of these
哇，我的意思是，这些人的天性
guys is that that Texas tradition from
就是来自
the wild west days the Marshall was the
狂野西部时代的德克萨斯传统 马歇尔是
law of the County uh and these guys
县的法律，这些人
carry on that tradition with with
带着奉献精神继承了这一传统，
dedication and they have enormous heart
他们有一颗宽广的心，
I mean it I don't you think they're just
我是说真的，我不认为他们只是
they're they're special that's a good
他们很特别，这是个很好的
word for it yeah I don't know have you
词 是的，我不知道你以前有没有
ever done a story with the marshals
和法警一起做过故事，
before or is this your first because
或者这是你的第一次，因为
it's my it was my first and I was so
这是我的第一次，我
impressed with them I've done a marshall
对他们印象深刻，我
story in other states but this is the
在其他州做过法警的故事，但这是
first time in Texas I was super
第一次 我在德克萨斯的时候
impressed with them they're and they're
对他们印象非常深刻，
they're so helpful and and warm and
他们非常乐于助人，热情
inviting and you know they couldn't do
好客，你知道他们
enough for us and uh yeah they're really
为我们做的太多了，嗯，他们真的是
special guys and and who else would come
很特别的人，还有谁 会
up with operation catch
想出一个行动
to Leslie Raymond is such a character
来捕捉莱斯利·雷蒙德，他是一个
the guy with the big cowboy hat on such
戴着大牛仔帽的家伙 这样的
a character but it was appropriate he's
人物，但这是合适的，他
missing a toe that's a pretty
失去了一个脚趾，这是一个非常
distinctive feature uh after a bike
显着的特征呃在一次自行车
accident uh William Greer loses his toe
事故后呃威廉格里尔失去了他的脚趾
um what' you make of the
嗯你怎么看待这个
name I loved it yeah and ultimately they
名字我喜欢它，是的，最终他们
do catch not the toe but everything else
抓住的不是脚趾而是其他一切
right because the toe is forever missing
对，因为脚趾永远失踪了，
but they but they caught everything else
但他们抓住了其他一切，
they catch William Greer he's started a
他们抓住了威廉·格里尔，他开始了
new life and I guess true to what you
新的生活，我想你们
guys said about him as he was on the run
说的没错，他逃亡时，
you know he's found another lady and
他找到了另一位女士，
he's heartbreakingly started another
他令人心碎地开始了 另一个
family um can we talk about the the fact
家庭嗯，我们可以谈谈
that he had the nerve to to name his new
他有勇气给他的新
son William MH I mean it's just so
儿子取名为威廉 MH 我的意思是这太令人
stunning the whole thing is so stunning
震惊了整个事情太令人震惊了
yeah so William Greer's sentence for
是的所以威廉格里尔因
killing Tammy Meyers is just 10 years
杀害塔米迈耶斯而被判处 10 年徒刑，
and with time served he'll be free in
并且 服刑期满后，他
maybe 3 years perhaps even sooner why on
可能在 3 年后获释，甚至可能更早，为什么
Earth was it was this sentence so short
判决这么短，
well that's the sentence for second
degree manslaughter I mean they can't
二级过失杀人罪的判决，我的意思是他们不能，
they sort of have to go with the
他们必须遵循
sentencing guidelines right so I don't
量刑指南，对吧 我 我
think they had a choice the minute he
认为他们别无选择，他
was sentenced he was up for parole they
被判刑的那一刻，他就可以申请假释，但他们
denied him and in two years he gets
拒绝了他，两年后，他又可以得到
another bite at the Apple and then in 3
一次机会，然后三年后，
years he's out regardless no matter what
不管怎样，他都会出狱，不管
right did you talk to the district
你有什么权利和学区说话
attorney I mean is it clear why they
律师，我的意思是，为什么他们
allowed Greer to plead down to a lesser
允许格里尔将罪名降为
charge second deegree manslaughter
二级过失杀人罪
instead of first deegree murder and the
而不是一级谋杀罪，以及
fact that they honored The Plea even
他们尊重格里尔的请求，
though they never did find Tammy's body
尽管他们没有找到塔米的尸体，但
they sent us this statement which we
他们给我们发了一份声明，我们
actually put in the show we believe
实际上把它 在剧中，我们相信
Greer was acting in good faith and tried
格里尔是出于善意，并试图
to lead law enforcement to her body so
引导执法部门找到她的尸体，虽然
much time has passed and the terrain has
时间已经过去很久，地形也发生了
changed but we believe he tried we just
变化，但我们相信他尝试了，我们只
have that one statement from them that
得到了他们的一份声明，
you know is it's a clear statement but
你知道，这是明确的 声明，但
it doesn't doesn't feel right Nikki and
感觉不对 Nikki 和
her family continu to search for her
她的家人继续寻找她的
mother Peter you were present for a
母亲 Peter 你在场
search of Tammy's remains and you
搜寻 Tammy 的遗体，你
actually participated in the prayer
实际上参加了
circle that they had there what was that
他们在那里举行的祈祷圈，那是什么
like it was deeply emotional uh we all
感觉，这让人深有感触 我们都
felt a tie to Nikki we'd spent a lot of
觉得和 Nikki 很亲近 我们花了很多
time with her and she's such a
时间和她在一起，她是一个
big-hearted person and has gone through
心胸宽广的人，经历了
so much pain and when you see the
这么多痛苦，当你看到
volunteers out there you could
志愿者们在那里时，你就能
understand how Nikki shed some tears for
理解尼基
the first time around us and also had
第一次在我们身边流泪的原因，而且
all of this hope it it was inspiring and
所有这些希望都鼓舞人心，也
it was heartbreaking I was standing next
让人心碎。
to Peter during that prayer circle and I
在祈祷圈中，我站在彼得旁边，我
could tell that he was getting a little
看得出他有点
emotional so I whipped out my iPhone and
情绪化，所以我拿出我的 iPhone 给
got a shot of him I thought it was kind
他拍了一张照片，我觉得这很善良
of a nice moment it was powerful and we
这是一个美好的时刻，它很有力量，我们
hope against hope that this circle can
抱着一丝希望，希望这个圈子可以
be closed for Nikki but it's going to be
为尼基结束，但这将是
very difficult and that was part of the
非常困难的，这是
emotion for us as journalists out there
我们作为记者的感受之一，
let's hope when EA search goes back out
让我们希望当 EA 搜索恢复时，
there maybe they'll luck out maybe uh
也许 他们会走运的，也许呃
Nikki's dream will finally be realized
尼基的梦想最终会实现，
wow um well of course another great hour
哇嗯，当然又一个美好的时刻
um Judy Peter thank you so much this has
嗯朱迪·彼得非常感谢你，这
been another fantastic fascinating
是另一场精彩而迷人的
discussion thank you thanks always a
讨论谢谢你谢谢你总是很
pleasure join us next Tuesday for
高兴下周二加入我们进行
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